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enter RFI Lasse Koskela

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects?

The gap between approachability (by a non-programmer) and ability (of the tools). There’s a horde of developer-oriented testing tools that are excellent for test automation but those tools aren’t too suitable for shared use between developers, non-programming testers and especially customers. On the other hand, there’s a bunch of tools that aim to be fool-proof but they frequently fall short on the power aspect - you can’t do much with those tools.

ii) What do you hope to contribute?

RFI: Michael DiBernardo

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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The biggest issue I see for functional testing is maintenance. I haven’t seen a way of building functional tests that is not staggeringly costly to maintain, both in terms of cost and in time and energy spent by developers on automating them.

RFI Pekka Laukkanen

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects?

Many tools are big and try to do everything (interact with the SUT, have fancy user interface for creating test cases, integration to CI, …). I see that as a problem because implementing such tools is a big task, it’s hard (or impossible) to get all features done so that they’d work well in different situations, and then if you are able to create a wonderful tool e.g. for web testing you can’t (at least easily) use it for anything else.

RFI Craig Smith

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects?

Finding a way to integrate the traditional testing roles into an agile process while maintaining the values of a single point of truth for your code and tests and the ability to refactor and regression test in the future after the project has completed.

ii) What do you hope to contribute?

I can share some experiences from previous projects where the above caused us some real issues and discuss some approaches we are trialling on our current projects

iii) What do you hope to get?

RFI Mike Stockdale

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects?

= meeting needs of both developers and customers (and testers who often play parts of both roles) to such a degree that use of tools becomes a compelling force

ii) What do you hope to contribute?

= some perspective from the developer side as a tool user and a tool producer

= some thoughts on where FitNesse.NET is going (if anyone cares :-))

= ensure the Calgary mafia has numerical superiority!

iii) What do you hope to get?

= some thoughts on where FitNesse.NET should be going!

RFI Bill Wake

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects? How can we create tools that are easy-to-use but powerful, attractive to the “right” users, and whose cost of using them is low?

ii) What do you hope to contribute? I’ve got experience using test automation with a variety of teams over the past 20 years.

I think there’s some leverage to be had in formal specification approaches that tools haven’t really supported yet.

I’ve got experience implementing compilers and other such tools, that might be applicable to new tools.

RFI Gilles MANTEL

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects? The biggest issue of functional testing tools is that they support old-fashioned testing approach where the values are to :
- use tests for finding defects
- test within dedicated testing campaigns
- specialize testing jobs

Modern functional test automation tools should support modern testing values needed for agile development:
- use tests to specify what the software should do in a test-first fashion
- continuously test the software

RFI Michael Phoenix

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects?

The biggest issue I see for Functional Testing Tools for Agile projects is the lack of a good, centralized repository of information for selecting the appropriate tool for a given project/technology/customer/etc. There are many good Agile FTTs out there, both open source and proprietary, but no standard matrix of features by which one can compare and contrast the existing tools so as to identify the best tool for a particular purpose.

ii) What do you hope to contribute?

RFI Branka Billante

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile Projects

Is there is a need to have a functional test tool on non UI components such as web services, or various APIs that would serve to both customers, developers, quality engineers and testers? Should there be one tool that fits all needs or should there be multiple? Are there tools that are easily re factored depending on the implementation of web services - should there be? I always find myself writing the frameworks to do that myself.

What do you hope to contribute?

RFI Paul Dupuy, Jr.

room: Sheraton Hall B, LC — time: Monday - AAFTT workshop
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i) What do you see as the biggest issue for Functional Testing Tools on Agile projects?
The ability to support a “Narrative Testing” (similar to Story Test Driven) approach — direct manipulation of the AUT UI using customer understandable and business domain grounded test language.

ii) What do you hope to contribute?
* Facilitate discussion oriented around the Narrative Testing approach.
* Demonstrate the open source StoryTestIQ Narrative Testing framework (I’m a creator and developer of this tool).

iii) What do you hope to get?

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